In about 20 minutes (around 12:40), bar owner and music promoter Dave Meinert, who wrote an op/ed for PubliCola last month arguing that the state should encourage more liquor stores, card rooms, and nightlife, will debate blogger David Goldstein, who countered on Slog that expanded gambling and booze sales would turn Seattle into Atlantic City, on 94.9 KUOW's "The Conversation." Tune in right here.