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Jane Espenson Is a Grown-Up Girl Geek

One of TV’s biggest science-fiction writers comes to EMP for GeekGirlCon.

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Who are you calling a geek? Oh, this lady. Cool.

If you’ve ever watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Battlestar Galactica, or Game of Thrones, guess what: You’re probably a geek. It also means you’ve seen episodes penned by Jane Espenson, a prolific television writer and producer who’s also behind this fall’s drama Once Upon a Time and comedic web series Husbands (check out the Nathan Fillion cameo!).

With nerd cred like that, it’s no wonder she’s a featured guest at this weekend’s GeekGirlCon. Espenson will be at the EMP to talk about her career on Saturday at 1pm, then wax poetic on her Buffy years in a Whedonistas panel at 5:30pm. We caught up with the sci-fi celebrity to find out what’s so exciting about girls and geeks:

Would you call yourself a nerd?
Sure, absolutely. [Nerd] is used now to mean a fan, anyone who’s obsessively into anything. But it used to mean someone more academically advanced and socially disadvantaged. I definitely fit both of those.

What do you expect from the GeekGirlCon?
It’ll be good, as long as it’s not exclusive. I want boys to feel included. The whole emphasis should be that we’re not the cool kids, so we don’t exclude anyone.

Do you ever get tired of being a poster child for female geeks?
No, not at all! I love science-fiction fandom, because there’s no reason why anyone should know my name. But in science-fiction shows, people pay attention to who writes the show. They value writing and they value ideas. Writers get to be as revered as the actors, or more. And I love that, because I’m a writer.

Many sci-fi shows film in Vancouver, including your own upcoming Once Upon a Time. Is the Northwest naturally geeky?
I think there’s something about tax breaks [in Vancouver]. There are enormous financial incentives, and it makes it much more affordable. And with sci-fi, you’re wanting to spend some money on effects, so you’ll want to save money on other areas. And it’s part of the tax break, that you employ local hires, so you can hear the Canadian accents all over sci-fi.

What’s the geekiest piece of clothing you own?
Oh my gosh. On my first season at Buffy, the Christmas gift we got from [actor] Alexis Denisof was a fanny pack that says BUFFY. I wear it in Las Vegas when I go to there.

Are there still gender issues in the world of sci-fi and fantasy?
Yes, though maybe a little less acute than similar problems outside of science fiction and fantasy. I think they have a great history of inclusivity. There’s always been a pretty good presence in sci-fi for women…. People think sci-fi must be the worst boys’ club in TV. No, that’s sitcoms.

I try to make myself hyper-conscious of [gender portrayals]. I ask myself, what if I switched all my genders? I try to make sure that I’m writing something as enlightened as I’d like to think I am.

So your writing is genderless?
No, it’s not genderless portrayals… [but] I’m not sure I’m willing to say that men and women are different, that women are more romantic and men are more likely to fly off the handle. I would like to see things a little more genderless. Why do we assume that the female will fall in love and the man will, like, pick his nose? I know a lot of active women who pick their noses.

Hear Jane Espenson at GeekGirlCon on October 8.

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Comic Con

Seattle Wonder Women Launch GeekGirlCon

Seattle comics lovers and female fantasy fans unite.

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Originally published October 2011. Batgirl stood in front of the bigwigs of DC Comics, exuding pride and strength despite the latex costume and purple cape. “Where are the women?” she asked. Over and over again, panel after panel, the macho-fied crowds of this year’s San Diego Comic Con were assailed by the demands of Stephanie Brown’s alter ego. In one weekend, the now infamous Batgirl of San Diego single-handedly forced DC Comics to publicly acknowledge a commitment to comic book femmes.

It wasn’t the first time San Diego Comic Con caused a buzz among geeky women. Last year, a panel called “Geek Girls Exist” drew a shocking 300 to 400 people—a milestone considering the usual “token female” per panel. Among the attendees was Jen Stuller, a 36-year-old Seattleite and one of the eventual founders of the first-ever GeekGirlCon, to debut this week in our tech-friendly, game-loving hometown.

Set for Seattle Center, the convention aims to bring Batgirl, Buffy, and Lara Croft to the fore of the conversation. Stuller, now GGC’s programming director, explains that women have fought with scattered success to gain ground in the geek world. “In the last two or three years there has been this really vocal contingent of women on the Internet connecting with each other and saying, Hey, this is what I want to read… I’m a grown-up. Please make Wonder Woman T-shirts in my size.

A self-proclaimed “geek feminist,” Stuller sees GGC as a space for women who are passionate about science and science fiction, technology, games, comics, fantasy, and LARPing to network and learn from each other—to geek out over all the fussy details within a respectful community. And unlike most of GGC’s predecessors, the added emphasis on intimacy and interactive activities has drawn in the shy newcomers. “We are working to bring all sorts of different people together, whether you’re female, transgender, gay…whether you like Star Trek or Star Wars,” she said.

The ambitious lineup—a projected 60 panels with 300 speakers—will cover everything from nerd burlesque (sexy Imperial Stormtroopers?) to women in horror. There’s a panel on making your own zine, a parenting session on raising mini geeks, and a Reel Grrls video blogging workshop. A few select invitations went out to “Very Special Dudes” like Javier Grillo-Marxuach, a writer-producer of Lost, and famed Wonder Woman scribe Greg Rucka. It just wouldn’t be right without the token male.

GeekGirlCon runs Oct 8 & 9 at Seattle Center. For more info, visit geekgirlcon.com.

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